[quote]1. More specifically, the 3D Model may not be exported or sold. This use is prohibited if the virtual world-type is an open MMO, like Second Life. @skifx, @made21, my royalty rate is 80% and i earn from each sale from 72% to 77% depending on the model's price - the pricier the model is, the lesser payment processing fee gets. Maybe there is something behind the scenes what you can't know or can't tell? They then review the model and contact seller to fix it. I hope to find same courage someday ;-) It's all fine and CGT rocks the socks off the competition. That is the most important reason for them to be on CGtrader and it is essential to reward them for helping artist and the site earn money. Hopefully that would make squids to react. Thor (Rig) for Maya 15. The site owners could also act on other various levels : Maybe the home page should be a very simple page with only two huge buttons [CG models] and [3D Printing]. @IterateCGI These are great ideas and in fact we are currently working on one campaign that will involve the community to help market CGTrader better. just needs more publicity.. us designers need to market the site with our products at the rate one of my designs is going ill have more facebook likes/shares than the website itself has on one design CGtrader is more in line with modern economics and following the model of open participation businesses, all these things make it have the hallmarks of successfully serving a growing team with highly ambitious members and top talented achievers (and also stronger support of the CG community itself). Despite offering models much cheaper (obviously) here than at TSquid, the clients prefer to buy on TSquid. Using TurboSquid products in Browser based games. So let's hope that at some point, the designers of the site will establish some filters to guarantee a minimal quality and, why not, a "good practice charter" for the sellers, or that they will explain some sellers that their attitude is not good in the long term for the site credibility. I don't think trying to sit down with one ass on more then one chair at the same time is a good business. Personally, I felt I in no way infringed on said IP. I think CGTrader just has to advertise itself more.. everything else will fall into place.. CG traders designer rank rep points. I can easily imagine that serious clients who value their time very high, might choose TS over CGT without second thought. Speaking of it, noting even stops me here from adding in the description of the model something like this,"If you are a maya exeprt and can successful convert this project, then I will completely refund you in exchange for that converted maya file". That is a big killer for licencing anything here that you intend to sell the licence for, leaving me with having to licence at Thingiverse first then using CGTrader as advertising or selling copies of the files only. The claim Turbosquid made was that it infringed on Games Workshop IPs. Recently I've been trying to contact my old clients and buyers and although they still have an interest in my models they don't quite trust CGT with their money. It certainly is an interesting read all together, thanks for documenting it so well and make the whole thing public, although I hope you don't stay embarked on a power struggle whit Ts management. Don't know how many even bother to ask, and on Ts no one can ask anything. Honestly I feel that it would be better to sell n bit slower that to have your models stolen. 5. "that is where the big money can be", being able to part with an invention has value. Thingiverse remains the king for licensing, as you can transfer the licence within the site. For example, I ran into this this morning. Payout fees are just fractions of percent, not worth to consider. I think I like the another item the modeler has created (Modern Villa), but that item is $40. Term of Use on www.turbosquid.com. That is true, but im talking if buyer is already familiar with existence of CGTrader, he can reap all the benefits then. Anybody else suffered the same blows to their sales in the same months as the web updates? They may not end up following your ideas, but they will certainly take them into account.
High hopes for Cgtrader. Prices are only guaranteed at the time of the creation of this document. Rigged 3D Models | CGTrader 3D Models Buy or download free Rigged 3D Models Rigged 3D models are your best choice when you need a character or object to perform unique movements. I deleted my products here and joined sguild again, no reason for staying here. you should check out all the posts about 3D models quality. It is pretty difficult to find what you want but if you are only looking for free models then CGTrader's search engine is far better than Turbosquid. (Edge loops, quad poly, simple overall structure) Full Rigged with over 30 facial blendshapes and 20+ skin morph targets in order to produce better rig quality and remove some joints issues such as overlaped knees, stretched hips, etc. With only a few days on CG trader, i can already see it is miles ahead of turbosquid. NoneCG will be up for it. Add a Payment Method, Add a Payment Hell, I even remember writing years ago to Matt Wisdom (TS Founder & CEO), Beau Perschall (VP of Business Dev) and other people at the management staff about the "no-brainer" choice for sellers regarding going exclusive into the "Squid Guild" or not, because after a group of sellers collected our stats and compared our earnings (for similar periods of time being exclusive and not) all of us ended with the clear conclusion that we were losing revenue being exclusive to TS instead of selling in all markets no single answer was received from any TS management staff member. I think that subsequently only large studios and squidguild members will remain there" You have insufficient credit to complete your purchase. I have noticed that a lot of artists are moving to Asia to find jobs where they are far better respected and paid what they are worth. In my opinion, the worst Turbosquid is doing is minimizing the role and presence of the real content creators, being just a middleman reseller but trying to control all aspects of the product in a way that in the end the . Better for who? - An improvement in search results based on manual rating from sellers and/or CGtrader staff. They don't allow you to communicate with the customer, with Turbosquid support acting as a "human firewall" (and a bad one) that is constantly supervising every interaction to ensure that Turbosquid always gets the best outcome (and neither the seller nor the customer). Plus, if you express constructive ideas on the forums, you know you'll get listened to. I think these are questions that every 3D content creators must honestly answer for themselves. He earns trust in this way and we know everything stands or falls with the coming and going of trust. CGtrader website is much bather coded and it just need some time to get on top. Yes, buyers has free will to express their opinion about model, but in case of negative feedback such opinion should be reasonable and motivated. Ts would probably just pull up the royalty's and change policy if it stats feeling uncomfortable, but it would not change what is in memory. After 60 days, we will put your content back online. We made this limitation to protect our designers from leechers who download hundreds of free models and then try to monetize them in some other way. https://vimeo.com/739678
You can enter multiple email addresses separated by commas, Thank you for shopping at TurboSquid. At least some aspects of it. I do agree with you regarding the search engine. bye for now and be well Will and Mr Data :) :]. There is indeed much structural work that needs to be done here but the core foundation/principal is here. But i think its not only the responsability of cgtrader to turn this around. If you manage to get lots of buyers on there you could make a real fortune. Rigged models are great for art projects, games, movies or VR experiences, because they save a lot of development time. Basically, they continue to sell their previous models or are selling non-liquid assets. CGTrader. Yep.. https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/character/woman/female-hand-realistic https://www . Hi from Will and Mr Data :) :] This is from my own personal experience. I can't download that lamp and see it's quality myself - so why would I purchase anything from the creator when I don't know if I'll be satisfied? So just to be constructive (and this will be my last post here, because I don't want to hijack the thread anymore, here are some ideas : Most people don't care a bit about all this. If you're searching for a regular model, you have to click on the little icon "CG models", but nothing changes on the page when you do so. Change Method. rigged People SixPack 003 - Photogrammetry Population Character Rig, Realistic Human Body Basemesh - UVMapped - Rigged, CARTOON MAN AND WOMAN - TOON MOTHER AND FATHER, Worker Mining Safety Female - Bella - Harness, Naked Fitness Blonde Woman with Tied Hair. @captainmarlowe Thanks a lot for a lot of valid points regarding search and categorization! You have to realize that TS is recognized by autodesk and even had a direct tab link to their site in max itself. I think this computer graphics industry just needs a well known and established hub specific to our profession, and one that is being run with good core principals like we see it here on CGt. In that case on CGTrader buyer can contact seller directly and ask him/her to fix the issue. A good platform should integrate all next gen communication technologies in order to support curent evolution and technological progress. After all everyone can afford to put down 1 dollar so it is reasonable. Turbosquid has a bot spying cgtrader prices. User experience and User interface is much better to manage your store, and higher royalty. If I compare him with the founder of Ts, then it becomes clear to me we have a completely different relationship. Although in the beginning that meant the loss of a big part of income (being Turbosquid the biggest 3D content reseller), after just a few adjustment months from that specific point our sales in ALL the other marketplaces started to grow up to a point where we don't miss any income from the missing Turbosquid sales anymore, while 90% of "customer problems" suddenly disappeared. We had the experience of a 3d modeling agents (UKW) stealing our models before and stopped selling with them, from there on we put a small signature on each model. I do agree with you regarding the search engine. --GENERAL--. @Supercigale, this is worrying to read, i think such things shouldn't happen. Why should the artist suffer? Its great way to compete and fair . for someone that is a little more unique. Sure, but I won't rinse and repeat the whole uploading process if it happens though. The entire way of setting up your model seems backwards and chaotic. Products are subject to the TurboSquid, Inc. So many more buyers would actually have a look at what they have because sometimes you want to buy a special toy Right now, low quality models flooding this site are attracting the low budget people - that's certainly why high quality objects with pricings in accordance don't sell that much. Since you havent contacted us about any of these changes being incorrect, we are resetting prices on these models one final time (see the attached CSV file listing these models). If they want free models then they can go elsewhere!!! IT'S A WASTE OF TIME. And precisely here is where I think resides the greater problem. You have insufficient credit to complete your purchase. I have been the victim repeatedly on TS. You just have to check the Sellers forum at Turbosquid to see plenty of complaints about all sorts of abusive policies. It needs to be obvious where to go if you want one or the other. 60% is an insult. when the same type of issue occurs on CGTrader, the Staff policy is to do nothing. In other countries like China film production is far better funded so perhaps CGTrader could try opening it's doors to Hong Kong film studios etc Japan is also far better funded and in fact Turbosquid is also selling models on the Japanese market. If the buyer decided to buy after inspecting a sample, the seller would deduct the sample price from another 3d model. At some point in the past both Turbosquid and The3DStudio had to get through a huge cleansing of their site and removed thousands of objects that were hampering their credibility. 4. and resurrect it without that 3dprinting nonsense. Having a direct link/communication is also critical in detecting possible needs and potential new business. I'm a bit afraid there's always going to be issues that leaves this community divided, leaving CGpeople with a platform not able to live up to its full potential and leaving 3D print people with a platform not living up to its full potential either. This site is bloated with 3D print ready models, crap models and "adult content / i cant see it". I don't know if Turbo Squid allows licence ownership to be transferred as i never got that far with them. I have to agree. Well, it was more than one year ago that I last intervened on this thread. On the other side, CGtrader empowers the real content creators, giving them all kind of freedom regarding their products and image, and encouraging communication between customers and content creators. This place is indeed different and allot closer to what we actually need, I can't imagine the core principal on witch this place is founded would change as it will prove to be the one and only way to be future proof in this supper connected world. Yes, at this point the level of sales of the TS is higher than the CGTrader and TS has a more flexible search system. what you say doesn't make any sense because CGTrader has a 100 percent guarantee return policy on all models as far as I know. As we think that CGtrader holds the best core for these kind of improvements, I would like to hear the opinion of Marius or any other CGtrader representative about the ideas recently proposed in this forum, specially:
You can enter multiple email addresses separated by commas, Thank you for shopping at TurboSquid. Maybe they have a much deeper interaction with the clients? @IndieArt : So you definitively think that CGtrader's "change of focus" to 3D print sunk your sales? I had a conversation with Eduardas he confirmed that they will improve the feedback system. Login to PayPal to add your account as a payment method. A little more than a year passed since our public disagreement with Turbosquid policies and behavior that ended our relationship as content creator and reseller. The rumour that they can "borrow" models for check-out before buy to particularly trustworthy clients could also be true. And even if you sell the same models on other side you can advertise them as being the cheapest here. - Once in a while, alert all designers that a cleaning operation will be made, and wipe out objects that are of a too bad quality or copyright infringements. I think we as sellers can do a lot to make cgtrader more interesting for buyers. Their only flaws are the lack of publicity and their search engine. Maybe I live in an unrealistic parallel reality, where at least some people still have some dignity and know how and when to differentiate good vs evil and take a public stand with actions instead of just words. Others download beautiful jpeg or tiff files to set as their desktop wallpapers at the office. In fact I hope that once buyers begin to see the difference in quality on this site they will jump ship but the thing that still trips up CGTrader is the consumer confidence. CGtrader has been growing steadily faster than Turbosquid for several years, that's why they are making this desperate "first blood" move asking their Investors for an extra cash to buy Sellers out against Marius and his people, with the promise that they will fuck you to death later once the war is won for the #SquidClan. Ah crap, not sure how that referal spam sneaked into turbosquid link, here is the clean one: https://www.turbosquid.com/3d-models/cathedral-paris-notre-dame-3d-obj/933856, I think that subsequently only large studios and squidguild members will remain there. I am going to start a list to promote artists who are making great models but just aren't getting the views. TurboSquid goes down, It becomes miserable the users are ,,working from behind,, ! Also, trying to find an item that I already saw through the search is near impossible. I think the CGT does an amazing job of bringing people together! I also think, as iterateCGI, the market control based on exclusivity will soon disappear. Respect and good luck to everyone who is here! In my experience often times a client will ask for certain models but then one must take into consideration what computer specs they have because you don't want your client to get frustrated with the models you buy. CG trader is the first helpfull professional website I've seen in 20 years. Get this item for $ when you bundle it with the items in your cart. I wanted to test if clients compare sites (eventually wanted to avoid clients would use the expensive Ts platform to get my items). Yes CGtrader is great! I think we just need so some massive killer models of epic proportions that the 3D modeling community cant ignore. In my opinion, the worst Turbosquid is doing is minimizing the role and presence of the real content creators, being just a middleman reseller but trying to control all aspects of the product in a way that in the end the customer perceives it more like a "Turbosquid product" than a "Content-creator-X product". I'm just an end-user, one of the people you guys sell to, and the site is a large part of the issue, in multiple ways. To be honest, when I first found this site a few days ago I was really excited. (Edge loops, quad poly, simple overall structure) Full Rigged with over 30 facial blendshapes and 20+ skin morph targets in order to produce better rig quality and remove some joints issues such as overlaped knees, stretched hips, etc. If you have any questions about these. Realistic Female 3D Model. Each sold model you can find anyone time in a download center. If CGT would manage to draw more buyers from TS then even more sellers would migrate here. Let me explain - I like the look of the models here, but the site is even designed so end users, like me, can't even download more that 10 "free" items unless they've uploaded models of their own, written tutorials, posted topics to the forum (which is difficult if you're not an actual modeler) and/or jumped through about 1,500 other ridiculous hoops to get enough "reputation" points. This would be a really good way of encouraging buyers to come spend their money on CGtrader where they can find what they want faster than on other sites. Hello,
Regarding response time, i respond to my buyers within 10 minutes unless im in bed and someone from other part of the world is trying to reach me.
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