My wife has a Ruger American in 6mm Creedmoor, and it is the only round that has been able to pry her away from her beloved .270 Winchester. Straight-wall rounds like Winchesters little 350 Legend may be the only centerfire rifle cartridges legal for deer hunting in some states, so of course theyre going to be popular. I did not try to shoot past 900 today because of limited ammo and Applied Balistics indicates that at 2550 FPS MV these 108s are going transsonic just past 900 and I didnt want to waste the last few shots. I also shot mine with an Ultra 9 direct-thread suppressor. The first groups were the 6.5 Grendel cases that I modified for the 6mm ARC. Copyright 2020 SHWAT | All Right Reserved. It suffered no vertical stringing. I was lucky enough to get my hands on one of the first CMMG Endeavor 300 6mm ARC AR-15 Rifles, and it has been awesome to shoot! Posted: 11/11/2012 6:04:07 PM EST [#2] Velocity with a 105gr bullet from both is 2750 fps. shoots the same cadre of 0.243-inch bullets as the .243 Win. And one may be all you need to justify a new rifle in a new, low velocity chambering. By accepting these terms, you agree that you alone are solely responsible for your own safety and property as it pertains to activities, procedures, techniques, or practices described in whole or part on this website. It has had moderate success in various target venues. A new 6mm round blossomed in 2017, and it has already taken a position in the Great category. The pair developed the .22 PPC in 1975, and the 6mm PPC followed in 1987. and puts more impact splash on steel plates than any .224 rounds. It accepts all the same components as the Grendel, including the magazine and bolt, so all you need is a 6mm-specific barrel. Its almost boring. Full Member. And just in case some hunter wanted to knock off a deer with his .244 rifle, the company also offered a 90-grain loading. Hornady BLACK 6mm ARC 105 Grain Boat-Tail Hollow Point Match Centerfire Rifle Ammunition, 20, BTHP Match (Save 10%) $34.99 $1.75/Round. Not a contest. There aren't any markings on the barrel, but it was advertised as being a 6 BR REM and the reloads that came with it seemed to chamber fine when the barrel was still attached to the action. WARNING: The load development techniques and load data shown in this video are experimental and are for DEMONSTRATION PURPOSES ONLY. Then theres Hornadys new 300 PRC, Weatherbys 6.5-300 Weatherby, and several more modern speed demons. I did a ladder test one time at 300 meters on an electronic target, the Norwegian ones that have verified accuracy. Read it here. Your email address will not be published. You won't have to fiddle with necking/reforming in 6XC. Absolutely, but not significantly better than the 224V with the 90 grain SMK. ZevTech, 16 Proof Research .223 Wylde barrel, Leupold Optics Mark 6, 3-18 with a David Tubb DTR reticle and Black Hills 77 Grain TMK. It is larger than the 6x47L and matching the 6-Creedmore capacity. While almost any combination of components seems to shoot well, my favorite powders are Hybrid 100V, Reloder 17, and Power Pro 4000MR. Shooters needed cartridges that would fit these increasingly popular, super-short actions. That said, I just got a 6BR for my new PRS rifle. With this testing behind me, I must say it was fun, I enjoyed it and will keep testing as new ammunition is available. If this development strikes you as the opposite of progress, you might have spent the bulk of your life in the 20th century. Even with the cost of the Proof Research barrel it doable. The general shooting public loves them for control of vermin like feral hogs. Between 600-1100 was a different story, everything but the 6.8 SPC did well out to 800 meters including the 6 ARC hitting with a bit more authority than the rest. In the 6mm ARC vs. the rest of the calibers vying for your attention, we have to ask if it the next 6.5 Creedmoor. This rifle is optimal for 6mm ARC because of the 20 barrel length, and the 1:7.5 twist rate. While it did well the clear winner was the 6CM, high BC and extra velocity are hard to overcome at this range. Each session started with a cold shot at 100 meters confirming zero while showing repeatability out of the bag. Accuracy was up to par, and shooters took to the rifle-cartridge combo like a duck, well, you know. CMMG MK47 Banshee Review 25 Hogs Plus Coyotes Helped the Research, Top 5 Braced Pistols for Hog Hunting in 2020, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykTfyrMiXps, Remington at Gunsite! Mag. The Hornady 6mm ARC takes the 24-caliber into record territory the slowest muzzle velocity of any commercial cartridge propelling .243 bullets. Did not hit as hard but it was no slouch, anything it hit would notice for sure. This rifle originally started out as a 224 Valkyrie using their IRMT upper and NX15 lower. We're going backwards! You can boost the performance of the 6mm ARC in a bolt action quite easily. Some examples include the 6mm-204 and the 6x45. It fits in an AR mag. The problem is that Hornady, which developed the 6 mm ARC, made a slight alteration to the case length so that it would be compatible with very long 6 mm bullets that have a high BC. The .223 75-grain bullet, by contrast, drifts more than 15 inches at that range, and the ARC's advantage becomes more pronounced at longer ranges. You are using an out of date browser. I had three high capacity magazines using white followers, two 17 rounders with green followers. Required fields are marked *. Not liking Factory ammo so much as the longer OAL is a fair bit more difficult to load the magazine. I had a 20 AR-15 to test with, so I had to do some math :). (Ret.) However, the 6mm BR is superior at 300m and beyond. The 6mm ARC was designed to match specific DOD requirements while fitting in the AR15 platform. Variations on a theme. The 6mm ARC is a medium-power cartridge comparable to the 6.5mm Grendel, but with better ballistics thanks to the greater muzzle velocity achieved by using lighter 6 mm bullets and enough power to make use of the heavy 6 mm bullets. You could get hits at 900 meters with all of them, 5 shot strings were easiest with the Creedmoors and they ruled at 1100 meters. The latest, sleekest, high B.C. Ever since the 6mm ARC came out I've been stuck on the idea of building one as a bolt gun trainer, specifically on a Tikka action. If the wind is changing from 4 -7 miles an hour (and it ususally is), you will have more trouble bracketing or holding the 6BR in the 10 or X ring. The release of the new Hornady 6mm ARC (Advanced Rifle Cartridge) supports the perception that gun and ammo makers are engaged in a race to the bottom. Walther's new Performance Duty Pistol is ready for both concealed carry and conventional service situations. .243 bullet for military (combat) applications in modern, autoloading rifles. It still turns the steel and is very consistent holding 9 mils at the top. .563) from wobbling, the 6mm ARC will need at least a 1:7 twist. I shot out to 700 yards next with .4 to .5 MOA accuracy and ended the day putting 3 out of 3 shots on the 900 yard gong in a .4 MOA group. The high B.C. I have the 6 ARC and getting great results of .250 groups when I do my part. In 1955, on the heels of the .243 Win., the .243 Rock Chucker was modified slightly by Remington and became the .244 Remington. Its accuracy is simply phenomenal, and it makes a superior varmint cartridge. Joseph VonBenedikt is with Joel Hodgdon to talk about the improved accuracy and long-range potential of the already reliable Core-Lokt ammo line. If you want to shoot at distance with your AR-15, this is the cartridge. Make sure to watch till the end. Thread Modes. They still do. I used the lathe to modify a 6.5 Grendel bushing die and ended up with a 6 ARC die. Commercial 6mm ARC offerings will feature bullets selected to deliver ideal performance for hunting, match shooting and personal protection applications. Soft-report, low-recoil cartridges prove ideal for starting new shooters, many of whom never see the need for escalation. I purchased a 6mm ARC barrel from Brownels when they first came available. Consistency remained about the same with 2 or 3 out of five the norm. It is advanced for the AR platform. Dropped on my M16 lower doubles and triples stayed on a full-sized silhouette out to 25 yards, stretched doubles to 50 yards. Taurus has redesigned this sporting pistol for performance. Clovered groups were the norm for both. 6.5 Creedmoor vs. 6.5 PRC: Which is Better? Follow up to the above. [citation needed]. There are 6ARC bolt guns out there. Savage already offers a few more inexpensive options in 6mm ARC though defiantly not a mini action. These developments are interesting, and the supreme accuracy achieved by several of the wildcat cartridges make them worthy of mention here. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. bullets from the magazine and not be limited to being a single shot. Eight reasons to embrace the Hornady 6mm ARC and other low-velocity cartridges. What about your 6.8 SPC? After forming some cases I shot Berger 105 hybrid targets over 27.5 grs. Given this or your typical AR10, no contest, the 6 ARC is much easier to carry. Geissele fixed gas block was retained with no change in brass ejection pattern or bolt speed. It depends on numerous factors, including ammunition used, barrel used, and the shooter's skill, but in general, 6mm ARC is a more precise cartridge. It also produced the best accuracy as seen here: This load is a good performer, but I wanted to see if I could get more velocity from the 108 grain ELD-M bullets, so I tried a different powder! For me because I have a cz527 I can convert enough said. The powder charge I used then is lost to history, but the bullet was a Speer 90-grain SP. | 0 comments. Im interested in a direct comparison to the 224 Valkyrie and the 6 mm ARC. In 100-200yd benchrest competition, the 6PPC is still the "winningest" cartridge around. But because 6mm arc is currently $34.95 per box and 6mm CM is $31.50 there is not enough cost difference to worry about since I don't reload yet . I don't know the velocity, but I suspect something under 3k. The 6mm ARC was built by necking down the 6.5 Grendel. But do you know how to properly use them? Accordingly, the firm introduced two loads. Factory ammunition at normal prices (if that exists anymore) suitable for defense, duty, target, and hunting is more available than similar calibers after decades of use. Travis224 Sergeant. The handguard bolts to the upper eliminating impact shifts when setting the bi-pod or locking into a barricade or obstacle. Should I consider another upper? Maximum Cartridge Overall Length is 2.26. Five shot rapid-fire was not bad. In the 1970s, the .222 Rem. Hi Gavin, Always enjoy your videos. Wildcatters have had a field day with the 6mms, and the list of their creations is long. Unlike the NGSW the 6 ARC is a standard cartridge fired from an AR-15. What explains that? The Mossberg 500 Pump Action Shotgun is one of the most popular home defense shotguns on the market. All testing was completed using 108 grain ELDM from Hornady. The sudden popularity of the AR-15 platform rifle has inspired a flurry of new, short cartridges that fit its short magazine. A fun challenge. In most woods that I was hunting in at that time, I couldn't . Ok from the perspective of one 6mm ARC lover. Or anything? Wait a minute. My barrel is a 7 twist 20 and Im going to try the Hornady 108s and I may try some VARGET too as it is another of my favorites. Image shows 6.5 Grendel cartridge, parent case of the 6mm ARC. Tested, selected and fielded by a specialized group within the U.S. DoD for its multipurpose combat rifle program, the versatile 6mm ARC does much of what larger cartridges can and everything that smaller cartridges cant. Available in different sizes and red dot ready, it'll fit your needs, whatever they are. can exceed it by 500 fps and the 240 Weatherby by 600 fps. .embed-container { position: relative; padding-bottom: 56.25%; height: 0; overflow: hidden; max-width: 100%; height: auto; } .embed-container iframe, .embed-container object, .embed-container embed { position: absolute; top: 0; left: 0; width: 100%; height: 100%; }, Ultimate Reloader LLC / Making with Metal Disclaimer:(by reading this article and/or watching video content you accept these terms), This section is from my 6mm ARC Announcement Post. Cartridge Specs. Because it fires heavier projectilesup to 110 grainsthan the 5.56 at velocities up to 2,800 fps, the 6mm ARC has the ballistics needed to vastly improve the performance of AR-15 rifles without a lot of added weight. Founded by Frank Galli in 2000, Snipers Hide has been offering informational videos, podcasts, and other support to its users in one location. The 243 has a case length of 2.045" compared to the 1.49" of the 6mm cartridges. If you already have an AR chambered in 6.5 Grendel, the ONLY thing you need to change is the barrel. Some tactics never die, they just get regenerated. remains a solid performer with todays high-tech bullets, new powders, and fast-twist rifle barrels. . Dave Bahde Dr. WT? Click here to view the cartridge and chamber print on the SAAMI website. Photo shows high B.C. The 6mm GT easily attains more than 3,000 fps. 6.5 Grendel vs. 6mm ARC Ballistics. Jeff, I would have it fluted well to reduce weight and chop +/- 20" - with 95 BTs, it will be a deer slayer, varmint bullets for said creatures. Sneak Peek of Bryan Litz's New Book: Volume III of Modern Advancements in Long Range Shooting. I'm pretty sure that the dies were marked 6 BR REM. This is, after all, a rifle forum and accuracy matters! Also 6X47 has also interested me. Learn the difference between revolvers and semi-auto pistols and what makes them different. Standard practice is to start tweaking burn rates, bullet weight and weighting factor to make calculated muzzle velocity match actual. LMT shot softer, exhibited a tank-like build, and proved great to shoot. In the case of a bolt gun, I'm sure 6ARC would do great but 6BR has quite a few advantages in case/neck dimensions alone. They built these rifles with great attention to detail. While this excellent cartridge was almost doomed at birth, it has hung on, to the chagrin of deer, prairie goats, coyotes, and rock chucks everywhere. 07-08-2022, 07:47 PM . They have 10 solid options ranging in weight from 90 to 110 grains. But I wanted to get some real-world results with my new CMMG Endeavor 300 6mm ARC AR-15 published as soon as I could, and therefore embarked on an exciting journey. Both bullets produce deer-slaying accuracy. Just looking for a ball park difference. Interestingly enough, my history with 6mm rounds began with the 6mm Remington. Some of the super short cartridges created to fit the increasingly popular AR-15 platform rifles with 2.26" magazine length. All of the eyeball'ed loads produced sub-MOA groups. Clearly better to galivant around the countryside with then an AR10. Savage already offers a few more inexpensive options in 6mm ARC though defiantly not a mini action. You can get a 6 to 6.5 pound rifle which can shoot high B.C. was everything the .244 Rem. L. to R. are Berger 95-gr. The .240 Wby. I am a much better bolt gun shooter than AR shooter. I tested a bolt-action handgun in 24 Nosler last year and was so impressed with the round that I had a Remington Model 700 originally in .223 Rem. After consulting Quickload, I also shamelessly lifted Gavins 27 grain VARGET load under 108 ELD-Ms. My Ballistic Advantage barrel is a little different than Gavins. projectiles make up for their lower MV with less wind deflection, the toughest variable to battle at long range. [7] What the 6mm ARC does offer though is almost comparable velocities and ballistic performance, but out of a compact cartridge that has lessened perceived recoil and fits into the standard AR-15 length actions. In the 1970s, Remington experimented with a .308-sized case that was about 1.5 inches long and had a small primer pocket (like the PPCs). LMT MWS, 20 224V, Sig Sauer Tango 6, 3-18 MRAD Dev-L using Federal GMM 90 grain SMK and an 18 SS Match 6.8 SPC with 110 Grain VMAX. The old 243 Winchester can beat that by about 300 fps. Once lasers hit the fields, the game began to change. Ballistic coefficients are about equal, with a slight edge going to the 6mm 108 ELD . Thats only a minor impediment for serious riflemen. The factory 105s shot at 2662 FPS with an SD of 11 as measured by a Labrador. Arguments amongst experts (real and self-delusional) spewed forth with ferocity. Recoil is subjective and using the same bullet weight they were all close. Required fields are marked *. For now, though, it is anything but a sea change amongst the broader Special Missions Units. Guns & Ammo's first sample rifle chambered in 6mm ARC was a Ruger AR-556 MPR with an 18-inch barrel. First, the cartridge was designed for dual purposes: deer hunting and varmint hunting. The faster a bullet leaves the barrel, the farther it flies before hitting the ground, the less it deflects in crosswinds, and the more energy it carries when impacting the target. But no matter, new is new. But since there is no factory ammo, 24 Nosler shooters must handload. Winchesters strategy for the .243 was twofold and well thought out. Sort by. 100-300m: Consistent 100 meter groups in the .60 -.75 inch range, 2.5-3.0 inches at 300 meters were the norm. Benchrest (BR) shooters will go to almost any length to shave 0.001 inch off of their aggregate average, and there is a diverse assemblage of 6mm wildcat rounds for BR shooters. It is NOT for use in AR-15 style (gas gun) rifles. I think the point of the arc is that it works in an ar 15. After entering my measured capacities, measured muzzle velocity with 27 grains of VARGET under the 108 ELD-M of 2554 is now within 2 FPS of Quickloads estimated 2552 FPS. The 6 ARC was consistent, precise, and repeatable both on cold shots and groups but was about the middle of the pack with the rest. I also confirmed velocity for existing conditions. Some have long and storied histories, while others are just now making their own legends. Campfire Outfitter . Hunter aiming AR-15 rifle for which the Hornady 6.5 ARC was created. ), 6mm ARC brass (new), 6.5x47 (New) Sierra 6mm Gamechanger 90gr and 6.5 130gr Gamechanger, Update on my BadRock 6mm ARC bolt gun and new Hornady Podcast, Custom 700 in 6mm Norma BR (ARC, Timney, Bartlein) *Price drop*. and 6mm Rem., but it pushes them a little faster. Fast is better but slow means mo? Hey Gavin and fellow Ultimate Reloader Fans: I had a chance to do more testing today as I finally received some Hornady factory 105 grain Black ammunition. If you have any doubt how well Hornady does this look no further than the 6.5 Creedmoor. The .223 does have advantages, though. Thankfully most bantering moved back to more pressing issues like high demand (and low supply) of firearms or ammunition and that pesky election coming up in a few short months. Its 26-inch barrel made the rifle a bit heavy for toting over hill and dale, plus the 1:12-inch twist limited bullet weights to 90 grains or lighter. I chose to start with Varget because of what I read about 6mm PPC, and I have a lot on hand! It would also be used as a deer rifle for new shooters (small deer, sitka blacktails). Mag., the 6mm-204 essentially recreates the 6x47. Advanced Marksmanship Unit. That wont change and logistically the 6 ARC is still at baby steps. [5] 6mmBR is not the easy button it is the easiest button. Excessive recoil, debilitating blast, and marked overpressure remain its claim to fame, thereby making it unsuitable for comparison for most of us. Whats the plus delta on each? Velocity can be a factor, but given the same weight, recoil should be similar so I kept the weights as close as possible. To get started, click the link below to visit mymagnow.com and learn how to access your digital magazine. The Eagle Eye 6.5 Creedmoor shoots a 130gr hybrid projectile with a .295 G7 at 2,960fps from an average 26" barrel. Joseph Von Benedikt shows his custom 500 and how well it shoots. This increased size means the 243 has a case capacity of 53-54.8 gr H2O. can exceed it by 500 fps and the 240 Weatherby by 600 fps. Or hunting? V-MAX Item No. Some tactics never die, they just get regenerated. Take a look at any good ballistics program Hornady and Federal both have an easy-to-use program on their websitesand you'll see the advantage of the better B.C. In many ways, the race to the bottom is paying off. (The company envisioned it as primarily a deer-hunting round, with occasional use on varmints.) It will be interesting if they chamber this in micro-action bolt carbines like the Grendel has been. I tried a test one time after that ladder test, I decided to eyeball the powder amount in the case. Pretty cool having a light-weight AR-15 that can accurately shoot out to at least 900 yards. I followed up with three at 300 meters and a 600 Meter shot on a 22 x 16 silhouette steel. Would love to get this thing shooting consistently under .5 with enough speed to reliably ring steel at 1000. It is versatile, in that it is suitable in both ARs and mini-bolt guns for hunting, personal protection, and target shooting. All Rights Reserved, Borden's 7mm Rem. I tried the hand loaded 27 grain Varget loads and they shot a pleasantly surprising .5 and .52 MOA group at 100 yards. This means that during a 1,200-yard flight to the target, gravity and wind will pull and push on the 6 mm ARC between one- and three-tenths . Factory loads were available, and it was moderately popular for both varmint and deer hunting and target shooting. just get a 6mm hagar. 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Fred Huntington, founder of RCBS, developed a then-new 6mm cartridge by necking down the .257 Roberts case. : 0.330 VELOCITY (FPS - feet per second) POWDER 3000 3100 3150 3200 3250 Its release as a commercial round was presaged by a number of successful 6mm wildcats like the 6mm AR based on the Grendel.
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